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> <channel><title>Comments on: Ubuntu Is Not Ready for Prime Time</title> <atom:link href="http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/</link> <description>SEO Thoughts, Ramblings, and Rants</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:45:06 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1</generator> <item><title>By: James Lehman</title><link>http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link> <dc:creator>James Lehman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:52:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://piloseo.com/?p=79#comment-74</guid> <description>It is just not ready. Software not found already compiled for a system. I spent 30 minutes or so finding on how to install a program on my distro of Ubuntu. The Linux community needs to standardize software installations so any program will be immediately recognized and just work. It was cumbersome installing by command line. I could have been working for 30 minutes instead of typing in cryptic commands.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just not ready. Software not found already compiled for a system. I spent 30 minutes or so finding on how to install a program on my distro of Ubuntu. The Linux community needs to standardize software installations so any program will be immediately recognized and just work. It was cumbersome installing by command line. I could have been working for 30 minutes instead of typing in cryptic commands.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Sullivan</title><link>http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/comment-page-1/#comment-55</link> <dc:creator>Michael Sullivan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:21:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://piloseo.com/?p=79#comment-55</guid> <description>Mark, I could not agree with you more.  I love tinkering with Ubuntu on my machine, but even routine upgrades (like the latest from Intrepid to Jaunty) can invite show-stopping problems out of nowhere.  I seriously hope this is not an unavoidable consequence of running open-source software in a proprietary computer, because I don&#039;t see open-source hardware meeting my needs any time soon.  I dislike the business models of both Microsoft and Apple, so I&#039;d really like to see a Linux revolution turn the tables, and Ubuntu is probably best-positioned to make that happen.  But it remains a LONG way from being a credible threat to Windows or OSX, and that saddens me.  My wife, who is an engineer, will not even try Linux because she sees how many hours each week I spend coaxing my machine to do what I want it to do and she has no interest in spending her time that way.  She wants productivity from the moment she sits down, and I can&#039;t blame her.  Ubuntu has a superior philosophy but retains inferior functionality.  Here&#039;s hoping that changes in the next few releases.  Jaunty sure as shit is not helping the cause.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I could not agree with you more.  I love tinkering with Ubuntu on my machine, but even routine upgrades (like the latest from Intrepid to Jaunty) can invite show-stopping problems out of nowhere.  I seriously hope this is not an unavoidable consequence of running open-source software in a proprietary computer, because I don&#8217;t see open-source hardware meeting my needs any time soon.  I dislike the business models of both Microsoft and Apple, so I&#8217;d really like to see a Linux revolution turn the tables, and Ubuntu is probably best-positioned to make that happen.  But it remains a LONG way from being a credible threat to Windows or OSX, and that saddens me.  My wife, who is an engineer, will not even try Linux because she sees how many hours each week I spend coaxing my machine to do what I want it to do and she has no interest in spending her time that way.  She wants productivity from the moment she sits down, and I can&#8217;t blame her.  Ubuntu has a superior philosophy but retains inferior functionality.  Here&#8217;s hoping that changes in the next few releases.  Jaunty sure as shit is not helping the cause.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mackenzie</title><link>http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link> <dc:creator>Mackenzie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:03:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://piloseo.com/?p=79#comment-52</guid> <description>You can skip the GNOME issue with Windows stuff if you follow this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanentlyAbout the mountpoint stuff, you can type &quot;gksudo mkdir /media/WinShare&quot; into an Alt+F2 runbox to make a mountpoint and then just use that in the directions.Jon:
#2 *is* what Ndiswrapper is.  It&#039;s a way to translate Windows drivers for Linux.By the way, what kind of wireless card do you have?  Broadcoms are, I think, all supported in 8.10 now.  I always buy Intel hardware because it works well with Linux.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can skip the GNOME issue with Windows stuff if you follow this:<br
/> <a
href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently" rel="nofollow">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently</a></p><p>About the mountpoint stuff, you can type &#8220;gksudo mkdir /media/WinShare&#8221; into an Alt+F2 runbox to make a mountpoint and then just use that in the directions.</p><p>Jon:<br
/> #2 *is* what Ndiswrapper is.  It&#8217;s a way to translate Windows drivers for Linux.</p><p>By the way, what kind of wireless card do you have?  Broadcoms are, I think, all supported in 8.10 now.  I always buy Intel hardware because it works well with Linux.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark Pilatowski</title><link>http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link> <dc:creator>Mark Pilatowski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:56:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://piloseo.com/?p=79#comment-51</guid> <description>The performance is fine but it really is not that old. It was purchased at the end of 2006 and was running XP previously so it is not ancient by any means. I see no performance issues at all. I might try out some other environments just for the hell of it but not because I am experiencing any problems in terms of performance.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The performance is fine but it really is not that old. It was purchased at the end of 2006 and was running XP previously so it is not ancient by any means. I see no performance issues at all. I might try out some other environments just for the hell of it but not because I am experiencing any problems in terms of performance.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon</title><link>http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link> <dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:17:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://piloseo.com/?p=79#comment-50</guid> <description>Exactly my sentiments. Unfortunately there&#039;s not a lot anyone can do other than
1) Hard-code the drivers themself (a nasty job)
2) Implement some sort of wine-like layer to allow all windows drivers to work on linuxOr hopefully, persuade the chip makers to release their own drivers at the same time as those for Windows.Much like you I check out linux from time to time on an old laptop. I figure this is the best way to test it since laptops are so popular now, and they&#039;re the source of most linux problems. Virtually anyone could install ubuntu on a desktop box, plug in an ethernet cable and a couple of monitors and be away and working.On a laptop you have the major problem of wireless - what&#039;s the point of a portable computer if you have to be plugged in? - and the issue of using external displays.It can be done easily enough, but requires some fiddling to set up the laptop so that it can run EITHER the inbuilt monitor OR both monitors, on the fly. It just doesn&#039;t properly agree with it.At least your wireless is working now though, eh? :-) How&#039;s the performance, given that it&#039;s an older machine? Tempted to use xfce or one of the myriad of other lightweight environments?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly my sentiments. Unfortunately there&#8217;s not a lot anyone can do other than<br
/> 1) Hard-code the drivers themself (a nasty job)<br
/> 2) Implement some sort of wine-like layer to allow all windows drivers to work on linux</p><p>Or hopefully, persuade the chip makers to release their own drivers at the same time as those for Windows.</p><p>Much like you I check out linux from time to time on an old laptop. I figure this is the best way to test it since laptops are so popular now, and they&#8217;re the source of most linux problems. Virtually anyone could install ubuntu on a desktop box, plug in an ethernet cable and a couple of monitors and be away and working.</p><p>On a laptop you have the major problem of wireless &#8211; what&#8217;s the point of a portable computer if you have to be plugged in? &#8211; and the issue of using external displays.</p><p>It can be done easily enough, but requires some fiddling to set up the laptop so that it can run EITHER the inbuilt monitor OR both monitors, on the fly. It just doesn&#8217;t properly agree with it.</p><p>At least your wireless is working now though, eh? <img
src='http://piloseo.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> How&#8217;s the performance, given that it&#8217;s an older machine? Tempted to use xfce or one of the myriad of other lightweight environments?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark Pilatowski</title><link>http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link> <dc:creator>Mark Pilatowski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:23:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://piloseo.com/?p=79#comment-49</guid> <description>Yeah, and I understand that the driver issue is not really the fault of Linux developers but it is an issue that needs to be dealt with for it to really gain mainstream acceptance. People want the computer to just work and if they have to deal with a bunch of shit to get that to happen they will go somewhere else.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, and I understand that the driver issue is not really the fault of Linux developers but it is an issue that needs to be dealt with for it to really gain mainstream acceptance. People want the computer to just work and if they have to deal with a bunch of shit to get that to happen they will go somewhere else.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon</title><link>http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link> <dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 02:48:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://piloseo.com/?p=79#comment-48</guid> <description>How strange that I stumble onto this article just a day after posting my own experiences about how Linux&#039; use of wireless has improved drastically over the last few years.
http://blog.tminusten.com/linux-pain-free-at-last-or-did-i-just-get-lucky/At the same time, one of the biggest problems with hardware on linux is that the drivers are hit-and-miss, so I guess I shouldn&#039;t be too surprised.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How strange that I stumble onto this article just a day after posting my own experiences about how Linux&#8217; use of wireless has improved drastically over the last few years.<br
/> <a
href="http://blog.tminusten.com/linux-pain-free-at-last-or-did-i-just-get-lucky/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.tminusten.com/linux-pain-free-at-last-or-did-i-just-get-lucky/</a></p><p>At the same time, one of the biggest problems with hardware on linux is that the drivers are hit-and-miss, so I guess I shouldn&#8217;t be too surprised.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark Pilatowski</title><link>http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link> <dc:creator>Mark Pilatowski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 13:24:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://piloseo.com/?p=79#comment-47</guid> <description>Yeah, I have SAMBA loaded up and it I am able to access it from my WIndows machine, no problem. The problem is that while I can navigate to my Windows shared folders from my Ubuntu machine when I open the folder it is empty. I spent a long time looking for a solution and I found there are quite a few people with the same issue https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=windows+network+empty+folder+ubuntu. If you have a solution I would love to hear it. I am still working on this but not with as much gusto as before.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I have SAMBA loaded up and it I am able to access it from my WIndows machine, no problem. The problem is that while I can navigate to my Windows shared folders from my Ubuntu machine when I open the folder it is empty. I spent a long time looking for a solution and I found there are quite a few people with the same issue <a
href="https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=windows+network+empty+folder+ubuntu" rel="nofollow">https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=windows+network+empty+folder+ubuntu</a>. If you have a solution I would love to hear it. I am still working on this but not with as much gusto as before.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: the0wl</title><link>http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link> <dc:creator>the0wl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:46:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://piloseo.com/?p=79#comment-46</guid> <description>I dunno where your network problems came from...  I&#039;ve been using Ubuntu close to 4 years now, both at work (shared), and at home (exclusively).  Setting up a network, or connecting with and sharing to/from Winderz never takes me more than 10 minutes.  Just load SAMBA, share a folder and go.  It really is that easy...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno where your network problems came from&#8230;  I&#8217;ve been using Ubuntu close to 4 years now, both at work (shared), and at home (exclusively).  Setting up a network, or connecting with and sharing to/from Winderz never takes me more than 10 minutes.  Just load SAMBA, share a folder and go.  It really is that easy&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark Pilatowski</title><link>http://piloseo.com/linux/ubuntu-is-not-ready-for-prime-time/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link> <dc:creator>Mark Pilatowski</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:38:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://piloseo.com/?p=79#comment-45</guid> <description>This is my first venture into Linux so I am not as experienced as you. I am fairly technically skilled myself in that I can usually figure out how to troubleshoot a problem (or at least use Google to find the solution) and I have been frustrated more than once. I still like it but it needs a lot of work before my wife or daughter will be able to use it for more than checking email or browsing the Internet.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first venture into Linux so I am not as experienced as you. I am fairly technically skilled myself in that I can usually figure out how to troubleshoot a problem (or at least use Google to find the solution) and I have been frustrated more than once. I still like it but it needs a lot of work before my wife or daughter will be able to use it for more than checking email or browsing the Internet.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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